there is a deep emotional attachment to nelson mandela. he's been out of the public eye, hasn't been in the public scene for more than two years. so people haven't seen him a lot. but there is a deep sense he's very much the architect of south africa's democracy. so people are very concerned about his health. but like we said, he's 94 years ole. there is also a deep sense of pragmatism that he's old, he's frail, and that one day there will be a south africa without nelson mandela. there have been a lot of prayers this christmas as people have wished him well. but in the same sense, south africans are not hysterical, not panicked, haven't been huge scenes of people leaving flowers outside hospitals or anything like that. just a quiet thankfulness, perhaps, that he's still with us. >> and outside of south africa, as well. robin corneau, thank you very much for that. >>> let's get to another big story that is happen and will continue to go on the next days and weeks. the gun debate, the gun reform debate. cities from camden, new jersey, san d